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« on: October 14, 2008, 06:19:10 AM »

Mga sir, I have just discovered this very useful tweaking of the hop up that surely improves your groupings as well as the fps. This is what I call my "Half Cut Hop Up Cussion Design". If this is done properly your projectile flight can straighten and your gun will have an accuracy of within only 5 inch diameter in 15 meters or even better! You gun will fire like as if you are using a tight barrel at a very minimal cost! This moding really improved the accuracy of my m733 even with a short barrel, it can now also be a sniper rifle!

For this enhancement, you will need the following:

1. silicon rubber gasket
2. teflon
3. silicon oil

These are the steps:

1. Disassemble the hop up.
2. Put an ample amount of silicon oil to the hop up rubber inside and out.
3. Properly attach the hop up rubber to the inner barrel
4. Wrap about 720 degrees(2 turns) of telfon around the hop up rubber positioned at it's edge opposite to the bb entrance(but not reaching the hop up rubber hole for the hop up cushion). Teflon also touching the inner barrel.
5. Insert properly the hop up rubber to the hop up assembly and check if the hop up rubber is in perfect round shape if you view it on the rear side like this below:



6. Properly seal the hop up plastic holder(that small plastic piece that locks the inner barrel) and the barrel ring using silicon rubber gasket and wipe off excess as shown below:



7. Cut into half the rubber cushion and glue only 1 half part (using a strong glue) to the hop up holder(i actually dont really know what is the term used to this) as shown below:



Another view below:



8. Assemble back all remaining hop up assembly parts.
9. Clean the inner barrel.
10. Test it. 

Actually the logic for this why it can greatly improve your groupings is that, the back spin axis of the projectile will surely be perpendicular to the ground so bb flight will most likely move either up or down (depending on the level of the hop up)and not sideways-given with very minimal to no windage.

It can also enhance FPS because of the proper sealing. Teflon reinforced with silicon rubber gasket is very effective in the field. It can add more or less 10 to 15 fps if done properly.

Sometimes even high polished bbs like ICS is really not literally/perfectly round and these "imperfections" greatly affect the projectile flight. This mod helps correct trajectory direction by touching only a small portion of the bb as it travels in the barrel so back spin axis is enhanced.

As I have noticed, this is more effective than a V type mod that I was using before. Enjoy!
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 04:17:55 PM »

wonder why i never saw this  Huh?

d'you have a pic of the teflon wrapped around the forward end of the bucking, netad? that would certainly make things clearer.  Grin

good job!

p.s.: you may want to check
this out.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 05:12:28 PM »

hmm, where was i when this post was made LOL

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your pitiful shadow's clothed in darkness, you've caused great pain and sufferings,your hollow soul's drown in sins, i'll show you what dead is like.. you're coming with me, we're going to hell...

Ang taong nagigipit, sa DIY kumakapit Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 08:33:22 AM »

preho yata tayong nasa ibang dimension  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 03:32:38 PM »

i tried this one before ko pinasok ang scs...
nasa fas kasi ang unang post nito sir zt/source.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 03:37:26 PM »

na-teleport dito  Shocked




ahihihi  . . . . jk lang po, sir jojo. understood.
  Saludo
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 10:59:19 AM »

hehehe

I have to replaced my SA58 Hop Rubber using new Soft Prometheus Hop up Bucking.
Afraid breaking my Hop lever using SCS by over adjust, actually i am lazy enough to shave the hop up "hump".

Here's mine...



Cleaned with alcohol or small  acetone dipped in cotton buds.

Then Glue...

Lucky enough to have this Industrial Grade Loctite 401.

Put the "Half Hop Cushion"


Aligned Carefully

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2008, 12:06:39 AM »

daghang salamat for the very clear pics, sir jojo. encourages me to continue experimentation with my 3-point zVar  Tongue

ngayon, hindi ako makakatulog hanggang di ako makakita nyang dyaskeng 401 na 'yan.  Sad

meron kaya sa Levis ?  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2008, 10:32:49 PM »

Padalhan kita pagmakabalik na ang supplier ko sir zT (nasa Europe pa yon)

Field testing: AK105 and SA58...

From stock: 4 / 10, as in 'poor' groupings
Scored it: 9 / 10

Thanks for sharing this "small diy" sir netad. Grin

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For my AK,

AK47 Hop Chamber


Stock Hop up Cushion








Salamat usab Bai  Grin

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checking the SA58 and AK105 kung natanggal ba ang dikit using Loctite 401  Grin
Post ko mamaya.

Well this is under Testing period...more field test next weekend kung tatagal ba ang mod na eto... Grin






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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2008, 08:30:34 AM »

h m m m . . .  mukhang mas malapad 'yang sa AK kaysa dun sa nauna  Lips Sealed

am i seeing right, sir jojo?

wild idea: parang napanaginipan ko last night ang slanted na tabas ng side ng cushion. ano kaya epekto?

and salamatsky for the thought on the 401, sir jojo.  Grin
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